Amen!

@RL
This is called a an ultra right wing agenda and will not pass even with the Republican party.

Very nice RL, I wholeheartedly concur!

#3 is the only one I see that would be considered extreme right wing. The others are just kind of common sense.

Agreed. Also, shut down Dept of Energy; Cut Dept of State budget by 50%; stop subsidizing corporations; cut miliary foreign aid (especially to Egypt) or at least make countries pay retail prices for military equipment; halt and reverse any and all Obamacare changes to date; etc. etc. JLG

I'd vote for you.

Very balanced. Good RL!

Hey George,
That is why the republicans stink worse than the liberal democrats.
They have no backbone.
It is not a right wing agenda.
What about does not make sense?
Be nice to hear Obummer touch on some of these ideas.
Wait, what was I thinking.....he thinks a government that controls all aspects of our lives is great.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness - how quaint.

You forgot one:
14) I will immediately repeal that abomination known as Obamacare!

Thank you Chris P
I was going to get to that before full implementation takes effect!

I am sure Onyango would love to hear about immigration reform as well. This comes just in time for him.

Sammy, Sammy, Sammy. That has already been said in 1939 in Germany. Too late.

Amen, Good Grief Y'all. Well said!

Talk is cheap. The people want to see action.

Actually, what you will hear is blah, blah, blah etc etc etc.

Thank you, David.

Here's hoping he'll be treated respectfully while he's speaking.

Respect is earned. Not yet GGY. He still has a ways to go....a long ways.

I respected Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush, even though I didn't vote for any of them. I also prayed for them and their families regularly, as my Bible commanded me to.

President Obama has gone beyond earning the respect of Congress, and evidently the majority of American voters, since he was re-elected. Congress should respect the decision of the voters as well as the Office of the Presidency. The world doesn't need to see elected representatives of the people disrespecting the Commander in Chief of the US. Bad enough for Americans to see that, we certainly don't need our enemies to cheer such shameful behavior. If Congressional members behave badly during the State of the Union address, it will embarrass their more intelligent constituents and prove they deserve their low approval rating.

I pray for the president too. And for my country. And for the release from tyranny.

Mr. Obama has done practically nothing to earn the respect of this country. And until he does, he won't get mine just because he is the president. I certainly didn't respect any of our previous presidents for winning a popularity poll. They had to earn respect too, just like everyone I meet.

GGY, Don't misinterpret popularity for respect.

One's personal opinion doesn't determine whether the President should be shown the respect of Congress (and guests) for the office WHILE he is speaking. Should we be thankful you won't be in that chamber tomorrow night?

And, yes, he has earned the respect he should be shown by civilized Americans. Political ideology doesn't determine the worth of accomplishments.

The televised State of the Union address isn't a time for political back biting. That was my point, Mr. B. But, neither you nor I control that. The ignoramuses are in charge of their behavior unless their leaders have any influence.

Mr. B, I assure you, I don't put much stock in anyone's popularity ;)

Even if you don't respect the occupant of the Oval Office, the Office of the Presidency commands respect and decorum.

"the Office of the Presidency commands respect and decorum."

Not anymore. That went out with your party and Bush 43. Too late to bitch about the respect level your president receives when everything he didn't do was Bush 43's fault.

Not true, Mr. B. And even Georgie B didn't get yelled at during one of his SofU addresses. Always respect the office if not the man.

I'm not bitchin' about anything, just making a statement. If the rudeness happens, it will be on your party.

You have it your way, I'll have it mine.

Have it anyway you like it GGY. The fantasy living in your head is so far from reality, you wouldn't know one from the other anyway. I respect the Office of the President...there is a very nice wool rug in there I would love to own. The person that occupies that office has done basically nothing to earn respect of the American people. Alternately, he has done much to earn our spite. I hope our representative do speak out against his ramblings tonight. His own party has no balls to disagree with him. They are lock stepped in line following him off the cliff.

"Political ideology doesn't determine the worth of accomplishments."

No, the worth of your accomplishments determines the worth of your accomplishments. And so far that list for him is very short. In fact, I'd say he's in arrears in that department.

Thanks for the opportunity, Karsten:

Lily Ledbetter Act, New START Treaty, CHIPS, Wall Street Reform, Preventing 2nd Depression, saving auto industry, yes-ACA, taking out OBL, for just a few on the long list. Surely you can find something to appreciate (be honest, even if only privately):

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php?page=3

"http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html"And Did You Know?"

212. Despite the characterizations of some, Obama’s success rate in winning congressional votes on issues was an unprecedented 96.7% for his first year in office. Though he is often cited as superior to Obama, President Lyndon Johnson’s success rate in 1965 was only 93%. http://n.pr/i3d7cY "

DISCLOSURE: this one comes with pictures :D
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/top-20-achievements-of-president-obama

Mr. B, like most of your party, your resentment stems from the fact that President Obama hasn't failed the nation as your party has planned and plotted for since the night of his first inauguration. He has succeeded on many actions despite obstruction. The fantasy of failure is on you, sir.

See the above list of links. I belatedly dedicate it to you.

GGY, those are only accomplishments if you think that either they're a good thing, or if you think his actions actually accomplished those things. I'm not a fan of LLA; his wall street reform didn't really improve anything; his actions on the banks just increased the amounts of fees directly paid by customers; he's just kind of stretched out the depression, hasn't really reversed anything; spent lots of my tax dollars on the auto industry, giving the unions a huge financial stake in them, even though they're the ones that caused the mess to begin with, and resulted in them going through bankruptcy anyway (yep, stellar job there); and took out Bin Laden with information gleaned from those interrogation methods all the people hated.

Obama's methods have been fine if you think the government is the answer to all life's ills. I just happen to think otherwise....

Karsten, I do think the President's achievements are just that. I'm not alone.

You're incorrect on the reason OBL was taken down. The Generals disagree with you.

I know it's painful for your side to acknowledge the President's accomplishments. It's ok . . . doesn't diminish them . . . at all.

It's not painful at all for me to acknowledge any of the president's accomplishments. As soon as he accomplishes something, I will be first in line to shake his hand.

Minimum wage, unions, guns, the NRA, and big oil...yep...that about covers all the "liberal" talking points.

Wow George, you just keep getting further toward the deep end everyday. BTW, MSNBC didn't comment on all the ideas you have published and the Huffington Post mentions only two of them. Where are you getting your info to regurgitate these days?

George, thanks for your perspective. I appreciate your viewpoint.

Really? Stimulate the economy by increasing minimum wage and making it easier for unions to organize? In what alternate reality would any of these actually work? Increasing the minimum wage just winds up resulting in higher unemployment numbers (less people for the same money) and higher costs of living. Plus, jobs are worth a finite amount of money. No amount of government intervention is going to change that. And funny how recovery and jobs numbers are better in right to work states than in union states. I'm sure that's purely coincidental. That, and costs of living are far lower in right to work states.

Now, corporate welfare we agree with. But not corporate income taxes, obviously. I think they should be eliminated altogether. What is the purpose of them, anyway? I mean, other than to discourage companies from coming here. The government would do far better to eliminate them and make money from the increased wages, employment, and spending that would result.

Also, even though it has been determined that the government has the right to infringe on the 2nd amendment, it really doesn't. I infringes based on its ideas of what the 2nd amendment SHOULD be, but not its original objective, which included the people's ability to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.

And immigration. Agreed, it should be easier. But everyone here illegally needs to get out, and check back in through the front door....

@Mr. B
Books and newspapers I don't watch TV .Too many commercials.

George- Mark Twain said "If you don't read the newspaper, you are un-informed. If you do read the newspaper, you are mis-informed".

My niece, an honor student at a prestigious university, works weekends only and summers at an upscale chain restaurant. Through this food service wage and tips, of which she has to pay out 10% to busboys and cooks, she made almost $60K last year. It's not the wage that matters, its the level of service provided.

Wow, again, how many people will wind up unemployed from increasing the minimum wage over $2.50 and hour? Plus, how much of a loser do you need to be that the only way you can get a raise is if the government gives you one? Minimum wage is not designed to support a family. It's designed to keep employers from taking advantage of people. Want to support a family? Get another job. Learn a skill. Or, better yet, if you can't support yourself plus others, don't have the others. I know that's a big responsibility for people, but it's pretty common sense.

What you and other liberals don't seem to realize is that money does not just get pooped out by business owners. They pay what the job is worth. If they can't make money on somebody's labors, they're not going to hire them. That's not cruel, that's common sense. People don't scrimp, save, and forego things in life to start a business just to lose money so they can help the economy. I know it seems like it should be that way, but it's not. So you and yours are going to do nothing but hurt people by trying to help.

Karsten, those "losers" wouldn't get anywhere near minimum wage if left up to employers. I hope you're appreciative of the wait staff serving you. I hear it's very hard work. Too bad you think that such hard-working people are losers.

Once again, you're inserting words. Which, as I remember, you hate people doing.

What I said was, "how much of a loser do you need to be that the only way you can get a raise is if the government gives you one?" In other words, if you're working for minimum wage, and you're so bad at your job that you can only get a raise by official decree, then you probably suck pretty bad at your job and don't deserve that raise. I never said anything about servers.

I tip very well. 20% on the post-tax amount most of the time, more if warranted. Don't get me wrong, if service sucks, that amount drops. In which case, they earn what they deserve. I also won't eat at Sonic, because they pay their people based off the idea that they will get tips, but don't let you know that. If you pay with a credit card or such, there is no line for a tip. Most people don't even know that. But I don't think it's the government's job to address it. I really feel that if the people want to be paid realistically, change the environment. Sonic wouldn't be able to get away with it if nobody would work there. I just choose not to support it....

Karsten, loser is the word you used. Basically, you said if you work a minimum wage job and can't get a raise except with govt-mandated min.wage raise, you're a loser. I don't think I misunderstood you or changed your meaning. Servers were mentioned by others in this same exchange, which is why I used that example. Servers don't even get min. wage, so do you think they're losers for staying with the job? They're dependent on the decency of tippers, and they have to share tips with other staff.

It isn't always a matter of whether a job is well done or whether they're good workers. Maybe they have tried for other jobs - do you think it is better for them to be unemployed, not take what they can?

Now you say, "In other words, if you're working for minimum wage, and you're so bad at your job that you can only get a raise by official decree, then you probably suck pretty bad at your job and don't deserve that raise." Seems like a difference without a distinction.

You're talking in circles. Yes, hate to say it, maybe it hurts to hear it, but if somebody is making minimum wage and doesn't do it well enough to get a raise, then they don't deserve a raise. It sucks, but life itself is unfair. If you're getting paid less than you want, get a new job. If you can't, then you are, in fact, getting paid exactly what you're worth. Or, in the case of minimum wage, possibly you're overpaid. Forcing the government to force businesses to pay them more doesn't automatically make them more productive.

As for servers, they get a base plus tips. Look at it like commission. I work the same way. My base pay is pretty sad, but I make a good living because I hustle and get stuff done. Servers have the same opportunities. You may think they're below average because they settle for $2 and change an hour, I never said that. And I know some servers that make more than I do.

Truth is, businesses will figure it out. The best way to attract and keep good employees is to pay them fairly. I used to do that when I was managing repair shops. My mechanics made more than I did as a manager. Because they were good, and if I took care of them, they'd take care of me. But it wasn't because some government entity told me what I was supposed to pay them. All my people were paid well, and we made a lot of money. Because my guys were happy and took good care of customers. Not everybody thinks the same way, but there's enough of those kinds of places around that employees can be choosy...

There's not always honor in the business world where worker pay is concerned. Not all jobs that are minimum wage come with a commission incentive. Most do not. It's not right to flat out say that those people are losers and don't deserve better pay. You're assuming they don't work hard or do more than is expected to try to get ahead. Corporations have taken advantage of the unemployment stats, piling more work on, intimidating their employees. It's why they're sitting on so much cash. People in fear of no paycheck will work harder and longer for a smaller paycheck. There's honor in that.

You really just don't listen. I officially give up on this explanation....

I'm not surprised, K. You'll give up before you'll give in and admit your wrong-way thinking.

@Sally Toole
What one reviewer wrote:
"He doesn't really mention the excesses that occur when limits are removed from big business and powerful. I wish the world worked like the far right (or the far left for that matter) thinks it does, but sadly neither view is realistic and the real world falls somewhere in between."
I would suggest any of Paul Krugmans books.

Paul Krugman is a flake.

Finally George, something intelligent. I agree with everything you said.

Glory, glory hallelujah! :)

Flat tax.............. end of story!

Flat tax, yes. Simpler, hell yes. Progressive? No. Not sure why anybody thinks it's fair to pay a higher percentage just because you make more. The same percentage of a higher number is already more money.

@RL
Paul Krugman is hardly a flake.
Paul Robin Krugman is an American economist, Professor of Economics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University, Centenary Professor ...
Awards: Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, Prince of Asturias Awards, John Bates Clark Medal, H. C. Recktenwald Prize in EconomicsMore\
Yale University, John F. KennedMassachusetts Institute of Technologyy High School

George -I don't care about Krugman's credentials. I have read his stuff. I have watched interviews with him. He is a flake.

Tammy, talk about playing the race card. With all due respects to you, using a Black conservative to discredit President Obama is playing the race card also.

Huh?

David - what are you talking about? Dr. Carson is black. That's on the record. Nobody ever mentioned that he was right BECAUSE he was black and disagreed with our President. You have seriously got to get a grip.

Tammy, my biggest problem is that I have the nerve to be a moderate Democrat surrounded by inveterate Republicans like you. That's what happens when Christians discuss politics, instead of things like Jesus being Lord. You and I are totally in one accord on that and other really important facts.

Let me expain what I was trying to say. I am very familiar with Ben Carson. If he were a white conservative having a viewpoint different from President Obama, would you be as enthusiastically pushing him here on Patch? Having a Black person speak what they believe allows white conservatives to avoid feeling racist. Then the white conservative is able to say "See, I'm not a racist. Ben Carson says what I'm saying". That's why white conservatives enjoy folks like Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas and Alveda King, et al. That's the point I was attempting to make. I'm sorry you took it as me stirring the pot. Lord have mercy, you are so easily offended yourself.

David, your BIGGEST problem is your possession of a victim mentality. As a black man, you grew up with discrimination. But instead of growing through it, you embraced it. And now that your state has moved toward a very Conservative direction, you are victimized further. Learn to live WITH it David instead of allowing it to push you down. As the Falcons like to say, Rise Up.

It doesn't really matter to you who Tammy quoted. If it were a white man, you would have discounted it by thinking she was racist. If it were a black man, you would have your standard reaction...Tammy is racist because she is quoting a Conservative black man. There is no winning with a victim mentality. What you should realize is ther ARE black Conservatives and they shouldn't be discounted just because they have escaped the victim mentality. What you need to realize is the Liberals want you to possess a victim mentality. They play off it for your sympathy and support. The end result is you go to your grave as a victim instead of the winner you could be.

Dr. Carson speaks truth. His skin color shouldn't matter. It doesn't to him, it doesn't to me, it shouldn't to you.

David:
Cut the crap. You have a track record on the PATCH insinuting that anyone who is white and disagrees with Obama is a racist. Your spin is pathetic. Sounds to me you're the only one calling Cain, Carson, and others an "Uncle Tom." Shame on you...

I received an email from a Patch fan who observed that it seems I get more vitriol than any of the other progressive commenters. How right that Patch fan was!

David - just what exactly is a "progressive"?

David, probably true. Mainly because of the comments you make like "racist."

RL - I know that was rhetorical, but Progressive is, essentially, Communist. That was the code word they took years ago in order to infiltrate the Democrat party.

So, you have fans supporting your victim mentality. That doesn't make it right. You do know that, don't you?

Now, David, I think I'm a candidate for that dubious title ;)

But, the vitriol does seem more vicious coming at you. You don't deserve that treatment. You're a nice and respectful guy.

Your support isn't due to "victim mentality", it's because you care enough to speak your convictions despite the inevitable attacks for doing so.

Chin up, Elizabeth, it will only be a temporary drop. At around 14,000, I don't think Wall Street is crying in its beer these days.

GGY...so uninformed. No one care what Wall Street thinks. They only care how their retirement accounts are affected. Go back to sleep, your husband will take care of you. At least until he leaves.

Wall Street does, and investors do. It bothers you so much that I am informed :)

What is your marital situation, Mr. B? You always have to inject personal vitriol. For smart people, that isn't necessary.

Wall Street is controlled by institutional investors. They control the market and make money when it goes up and when it goes down. You really should study the market. It's quite interesting.

I'm widowed after 33 years of marriage.

I haven't had a chance to listen to MSNBC today. Is vitriol today's word? I've heard both you and David Brown use it so it must be. Neither seem to have any original thoughts of your own. Call it vitriol, I call it fact.

So, America should not have panicked when the market dipped below 7k in 2008?

No, I don't watch MSNBC these days, but will tonight. Political commentary is just sad entertainment lately. Vitriol aptly describes personal attacks on anyone on these threads, whether right or left. We would all be better off without that stuff. It's low mentality and brings discussions to a screeching halt. Beg pardon, sir, but David and I have totally different comments. That is a fact.

I am sorry for your loss.

Mr. B, I think "victim mentality" just edged out "vitriol" as word of the day :D

I think that jobs-jobs-jobs line was from the Republican mid-term election promises, which turned into renaming post offices and turning back time on women's issues.

No, that was from clips of past Obama speeches. And talking points from his staff.

. . . and the Republican mantra in the mid-term election campaigns. They were promising jobs, but once elected they only acted on renaming stuff and taking women back to the 1950s.

I've heard that line before, but not really sure what it refers to. How did the GOP want to take women back to the 50's?

No, Karsten, I'm not climbing into that can of worms. You can look it up.

Hunh...can't find any reference to that. Imagine that. Convenient, too, that you don't want to provide that. Typical liberal talking point, no substance to find. It's OK, we understand....

You won't find it on Fox, or any of your right wing blogs. It's very telling that you haven't paid attention, especially to this particular subject. It's there, documented. I'm not responsible for your lack of knowledge.

Of course it is. To be fair, I didn't actually expect you to tell me any of it. It's a liberal talking point, and has no basis in any actual facts. I get it. I have to assume that any actual examples you point out would be like the 'war on women' that liberals keep bringing up, which seems to be based on the idea that 1, we hold life sacred, and don't think killing babies is OK, and 2, we may actually expect people to pay for their own contraceptives. Or, at least, not have government dictate that people have to pay for it. THAT's obviously us discriminating against women. I have to assume that your 'taking women back to the 50s" comment is the same thing.

Karsten, I have never seen a fair comment from you . . . well, maybe one.

Aha, you did know what I was talking about, but you instead use inflammatory wording. Yes, Republicans do discriminate against women, considering them second class citizens who should be sure to get home by 5:30 to put dinner on the table for their man. Stuff like that, too. Binders full of women . . .

Karsten, I must remind you that if we stay on this issue we will be accused of being off topic and "hijacking" the conversation ;)

Not at all, r pat, just stating my opinion same as anyone else has a right to do.

I like pudding. Much preferred to quicksand.

The country is going to hell and your suggestion is for the GOP to get on board. Smart thinking. Personally, I'd prefer to be part of the clean-up team.

Stan, you're a great American. Thanks for your opinion.

Sour grapes are a heavy burden.

Don't you think reform ( attracting more people to the party) is preferable to doubling down on ideas that are unrealistic with little chance of ever being implemented?

Killing unborn babies, creating an expectations of entitlements, driving the working class into poverty, destroying our ability to defend ourselves, subsidizing our enemies, sending jobs off shore, destroying the GNP, allowing illegal aliens to obtain drivers licenses, receive welfare, medical care at tax payers expense, destroying the class od people that create jobs and wealth, pushing the country toward total dependency on the rest of the world, allowing the UN to make our laws.....

This isn't reform, it's disaster. Nope, I don't think this type of reform is good for anyone. But failure is upon us. At the rate we are going, America as we know it will change and not for the better. A new government will take control. And I can only hope it is a government with the ideals this country was founded on. Don't worry, I'm a benevolent being; I'll provide you with food to eat anytime you're hungry.

Yep, you're right, we should just reform and enable the entitlement mentality. Just because half the country would rather be on the government dole we should just ask get on that train. Good thinking.

Not sure what you are suggesting, it sounds a little out there to me. I don't think the GOP will win any elections with your agenda Mr. B. and that's the problem. People have to decide whether they want to win elections and work inside for change or maintain ideological purity and be irrelevant.

People have to decide whether they want to be givers or takers. We will soon run out of givers. And what you're suggesting will cause us to run out sooner. From whom will you then take?

"Love others as you love yourself." Tammy, I agree with you there. I wish you would demonstrate that love to President Obama and liberals. That would bless God's heart.:) I ask His forgiveness if I haven't shown His love towards conservatives.

Disagreeing is not the same as not loving. During love is not being according no matter what. You seem to be tad confused as to what God's love is.

JFK would think it's the obstructionist Republicans in Congress who have spit on his words. They put party first, not country.

Don't worry GGY, Jesus will heal your blindness. All you have to do is believe.

I believe, Mr. B.

Jesus can also heal cynicism and hate, anger and a hard heart. He can heal bullies, too.

Then there is hope for you. I'll add you to my prayer list.

Pray for yourself, Mr. B. Your words scream for redemption.

I get it, Karsten - sort of like how the President had an absentee mother for most of his life and no father around . . . he was raised by his grandparents. I'm sure they made many sacrifices for him. Taught him to get a good education, persevere, give back.

Actually, Obama's Grandparents likely taught him the same values they taught his absentee mother.

Values . . . it's why he became successful in life and became POTUS . . . twice.

Nope, though I do appreciate your rose colored glasses, wish I had some. They taught him to be dependent on the government, poor family values, no social values and certainly no American values. He never played Little League, never joined the Cub Scouts, never watched his parents work 60+ hours a week to make a better life for him and has no idea what the traditional American family needs. They taught him how to be the ultimate product of the government- why wouldn't a product of the government get elected twice to run it? It's all he knows. He's a smooth taker but that's all he brings to the table. Unfortunately, as proven by the last two elections, that's all it takes to win over the majority of our country. Pretty sad state of affairs. The zombies are about to outnumber the population that actually thinks for themselves.

More birther, "other" talk. Hawaii is part of the US. Basketball is probably the most popular sport in the US. Golf is a favored hobby by many a Republican. Cub scouts a prerequisite to become POTUS - oh, c'mon. No family values? He has an exemplary family. Try again, or not.

Yep, cuz that's quality reporting. Nothing Marco said last night was wrong, so we'll focus on him drinking water.

<<GASP!>> He drank water?!?! What is wrong with him?!?!

Typical....

And today's word is....Delusional.

Mr. B- Is there a secret website where the Far Left get their word of the day programming? I bet there is and it's run by the same guy who runs this website:
www.obamaphone.net

Marco was sent to attack the President, not address the state of the union. Them was your R talking points he was spewing so fast his mouth was dry, that and the lies, which causes one's mouth to go dry. Like Ryan in the VP debate - he couldn't get enough water to keep up with his lies. Rubio should have taken Ryan's advice and popped a cough drop. That may have been dangerous though, introducing a choking hazard, to the choking on his own words.

It's obvious to even the casual observer that his drinking water wasn't the problem. It was the way he reached. He was overly rehearsed and missed his cues, afraid to take his eyes off the teleprompter and lose his place. It illustrated the fact that he was nervous and scared. But, I'll give him this . . . he is cute :)

GGY has a sense of humor! Who knew? Nice mention of teleprompter. Good job GGY.

Racer - Yes, there is a place where the secret Liberal word of the day is posted. But you don't want to go there. It automatically raises your tax rate to 85%.

I knew that word would draw you out, B. The mention of a teleprompter always gets attention from people who are hypocritical. It is a much maligned tool for speakers, which has been used by all presidents - even back as far as when former president Herbert Hoover used one to address the RNC. So much better than using cue cards or papers, or stupidly wasting time to memorize a lengthy address. You're welcome for the lesson. Pass it on. :)

I have an excellent sense of humor, if I do say so, and I do.

People who think they have a good sense of humor usually don't, much like those who think they have class.

You have never demonstrated either quality, Racer. At least not on these threads. Maybe you're different in real life.

Right, Mr. B. For example, "you won't find any mention of the government levying taxes in the Constitution - it's not there". I'm paraphrasing, but you remember saying that, don't you?

Tammy, President Obama served for three years, eleven months in the Senate. Marco Rubio has only served two years in the Senate.

Marco Rubio has a lot more experience at being an American.than Hussein.

@ David, thank you.

@Racer, we get that yours is a thinly disguised birther comment. Most R party leaders have quit embarrassing themselves in that way.

GGY- As usual, the depth of your perception proves to only be knee deep. I don't prescribe to the "birther" line of thinking. I mean, he has never been a Cub Scout, he has never played Little League, he has never witnessed two parents struggling together to cut out a better life on his behalf. He, instead, was always a child of the government and then a product of it.
He doesn't understand that the Government cannot fix what is wrong with America, only her people can, starting with the folks at home. The Government needs to be whipped back and the family needs to grow stronger. This is a concept he cannot grasp, as he is a ghost.

Racer, President Obama is a proponent of strong families and has spoken of the importance of fathers in children's lives. He said he missed having a father.

GGY- Obama "says" a lot. Talk is cheap. You can tell he is full of crap by watching him very closely. Next time you watch him on your TV, when his lips start moving, then you know he is full of it. He makes all kinds of statements but never backs it up with how he came to his conclusions, it's all just BS and wishful thinking, which doesn't get the job done.

I think you meant Hurricane Sandy versus Sandy Hook. Those were two different occurrences.

Mr B - both were great opportunities for the left to push their agenda, so they're the same in that way. Her confusion was understandable....

He didn't really need to change it up much, though. We all knew what Obama was going to say. No real surprises there...

Violence Against Women Act is an imperfect, ill-prepared document. Reminds of me of the ObamaCare bill, but I digress. Is it better to vote for a bill that may do more harm overall than good, just because it has a name that SHOULD be hard to argue against?

The Hurrican Sandy relief bill was also just so chock full of unrelated pork, we all should have been very upset that anybody voted for it. Actually, we should be angry at the politicians that can't let a relief bill go up for vote without adding a lot of other crap to it. Funny how we haven't addressed pork yet, regardless of all the promises to do so. I do remember that we've been promised that for many many years (before Obama) but I also remember that Obama said he would NOT sign any bill with pork in it - and then he did. And continues to do so.

And I realize it's not just the left inserting pork. But it is those on the left that seem to decry those on the right that don't vote for bills for that reason.

Oh Karsten, I don't think she is confused. Misguided, delusional, insane, evil, robotic, possessed..., the list could go on and on. But there is hope. My Lenten prayer group has her on the top of our list for deliverance.

Yes, I certainly did, Mr. B. Thank you. Sandy Hook weighs heavily on my mind.

Mr. B, you disappoint me. You have again broken your Lenten covenant.

Your "prayer" time isn't doing you much good as you accelerate your vile insults.

Are you mocking this time in the holy calendar meant for reflection and preparation for the resurrection?

I really tried to explain my covenant GGY. You just don't want to understand or possibly aren't capable. I'm not sure which. Possibly your church doesn't celebrate Lent. That's not a bad thing, not all churches put an emphasis on it. Not all churches allow their congregates to communicate directly with God. It's exhilarating.

My conversations with God are doing wonders. I again encourage you to join us. It will be enlightening. And we're praying for some of the same things you complain about so you would fit right in. Take time for God, GGY. You don't seem to have in mind the things of God but of man.

Mr. B - look at your comment to me just a few notches up. How dare you question my relationship with God? Do you think Jesus Christ would say those words to anyone or approve his followers doing so? Your words are hateful, display hatred and are inappropriate.

My denomination and my church do indeed observe Lent.

The problem with your covenant is that your hatred of me won't allow you to keep your promise to avoid "sparring" until April 1. Your words to me are meant to provoke me. You made that promise to God, so you say. I didn't, but I still don't call you names and insult your every post.

Whether you keep or break your covenant with God is between you and God. I'm just reminding you of it because you often criticize, correct and insult me, while you proclaim your piety. I despise hypocrisy. You also keep changing the premise of your promise :)

GGY- So you hate hypocrisy? You must really loathe that turd sitting in the White House.

Racer, I made the following comment in reply to you above, but it is still hanging out in "Pending Approval" purgatory. It fits here, too:

Racer, your hatred of the man won't allow you to objectively listen to him. Your hatred of the man won't allow you to acknowledge his achievements or the progress made during his administration. Your hatred of the man invalidates anything you have to say about him.

God has laid you on my heart, GGY. I'm truly trying to bring you to the light. Evil doesn't like that and fights hard at every step. My words aren't meant to provoke, they're written by command; i question nit why. I can't force you, wouldn't want to force you, just want you to know I'm fighting for you, not with you. My promise has never changed. Making people see hypocrisy instead of truth is a tool of evil. Satan reminds me constantly of my covenant but I don't listen to him either. He has no power except that which we give him and I don't give him any, at least not intentionally. The invitation stands.

Pardon me, Mr. B, but I don't believe anything you say. You have no credibility.

I have caught you in untruths which you aren't big enough to admit to, saying you have made a Lenten covenant not to spar until April 1. Then you continue to harass me. You make a mockery of prayer and the season of Lent. You claim to be deep in observance of this season, claim to be following a special prayer discipline, then you write hateful words about someone you have never met whom you judge and insult because of a difference in politics. You are not a good example of Christianity. A good, observant Christian would not write or say such as this about anyone:
"Misguided, delusional, insane, evil, robotic, possessed..."

You are a caricature. Caricatures don't have a heart or a conscience.

DING, DING, DING! It's official, for the 1000th time, the pot calls the kettle black.
GGY, if nothing else, is consistent.

DING, DING, DING, DING! It's official, for the 1000th time, the pot calls the kettle black.
GGY, if nothing else, is consistent. Then again, when it comes to being a dim bulb, is consistent really a good thing?

Matt. 16:23

Governors have to practice politics in a much more credible and realistic arena. Governors have to be much more accountable than Senators or their voters will be on the steps of his/her house.
Problem is- the far left cannot see the importance of government on the local level. They worship the all powerful, life giving sustenance that they believe can only be provided by the private club at the Federal level.