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The Bain of Mitt Romney

Newark Mayor Cory Booker probably didn’t have best week of his life last week. The rising Democratic star’s comments on President Obama’s latest ad calling Bain Capital a “vampire” managed to completely derail the message that the campaign was trying to push.

That’s not exactly what a campaign surrogate is supposed to shoot for when advocating for a candidate, and Mayor Booker had to deal with the fallout amongst party faithful.

While Mitt Romney’s time at Bain Capital is now back in the spotlight, as President Obama’s campaign desired, the question people are asking about it this time is whether or not it’s even a worthy subject to discuss. Is it fair to discuss Mitt Romney’s private-sector job?

To be frank, yes. If Mitt Romney’s pitch is that he’s the businessman to solve the economic problems that he says President Obama has created, then probing how he ran one of the biggest financial firms in the county is the best way to prove, or disprove, that point. Voters are going to be able to find the most insight into his leadership style and ethos when looking at what he did while in the financial sector. Romney’s campaign would like us to focus on his record, after all.

In fact, it really seems like this discussion is less about whether or not Bain Capital should be spoken of, and more about disagreeing over the conclusions that are being drawn about his time there. Romney is eager to talk up his experience there, at least, until he’s called a vulture capitalist or it’s mentioned that private equity usually has to slash a significant amount of jobs in order to save the companies that they buy up. Those are criticisms that rebut his job creator title, and it’s reasonable to expect his campaign doesn’t want to talk about those except to contest them.

The problem is these criticisms are seen as an attack upon leveraged buyouts, which has the business community that practices them up in arms. However, the idea of leveraged buyouts is different than what Mitt Romney is trying to say it is. Despite trying to subtly imply it, the firms that practice it do not exist to save the types of jobs that most Americans need their government to focus on right now.

Instead, they’re about saving the investments that firms have made in a now-failing corporation. This is an important role that helps keep the portfolios that Americans invest in every day stable. But this stability comes at the cost of eliminating inefficiencies, which are usually people who needed the eliminated job to support their family. It’s up to the voters to decide how they feel about that.

The crux of the argument that President Obama’s reelection campaign is making is that Mitt Romney is not automatically an expert at creating jobs because of working for a company like Bain Capital. Because Mitt Romney is making that argument himself, Bain Capital is valid to mention.

Reprinted from State Senator Curt Thompson's (D-5th) blog. Also, check the Senator out on Facebook and Twitter.

Bill Palmer

7:56 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Private venture capital companies, and capitalism itself for that matter, is not about saving nor creating jobs. It is about creating new sources of revenues and profits. Those revenues and profits are the engine that will ultimately create new jobs. Sometimes it is necessary to engage in creative destruction to open up these new sources of revenue. It seems that the Obama acolytes have no clear understanding of this fundamental role of capitalism.

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John Cook

1:24 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

If Bain Capital is bad, why are employee unions their largest investors? Some people flip houses. Bain Capital flips companies. In either venture, you buy, fix it up so it is desirable to a purchaser, and sell for a profit. Search for and read the Wikipedia article about Bain Capital. Half of their investments are successes, half fail. The ones that succeed are very successful and have employed hundreds of workers.

Greg Williams

9:09 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

If Romney is going to talk about the failed alternative energy plant investment, then the Georgetown steel mill is fair game, too. Bain bought a company making profits with steady employment. They replaced all the long-time managers with people who had no idea how to run a steel mill. They stopped maintaining the equipment. They charged the company hefty fees for this new management. Bain kept piling on more and more debt on this company, and finally they dumped it to bankruptcy. Bain got millions while the pensions were picked up by the federal gov't because the company was bankrupt. That is definitely creative destruction. Bain took all the revenue for itself until there was nothing left. If that is the fundamental role of capitalism, then capitalism is doomed.

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2012/01/13/2599863/romneys-bain-capital-made-millions.html

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John Cook

1:35 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Oops, you forgot to mention that the Georgetown Steel plant was part of GST Steel and that the union held a long strike on the Kansas City plant, sending it into bankruptcy. The workers were making a good wage, but the union leaders thought they needed to make an example of one plant so others would knuckle under to their demands. They gambled with the jobs of union workers and lost. But the union bosses still have their jobs. The same thing happened years ago with Eastern Airlines, and many other companies. It seems to always work out that way, doesn't it? Union leaders profit at the expense of the union workers! But who criticizes the union bosses as vampires or vultures?

GregRodgers

11:26 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Romney can talk about creating jobs...but I HAD a job working for a company that Bain purchased. Romney personally took credit for running the company. Bain expanded our existing facility and bought in expenisve equipment. It all looked great. Next thing we knew the company was up for sale. It sold to a new company and all who had jobs lost them. Little did we know that Bain was forcing illegal medical testing under our noses.

Its all true... we lost jobs and Bain capitalized illegally. Of course Mitt Claimed he knew nothing of the scam even though he took credit for running the company.

Damon Clinical Labs...1989 - 1994.

Bain Bought company, turned profit....people lost jobs.

He will not get my vote....

http://www.redstate.com/williamjameson/2012/01/20/mitt-romney-involved-in-medicare-fraud/

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Jimmy

3:40 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

How many jobs were lost at GM and Chrysler factories and dealerships when Obama bought those two companies?

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John Cook

1:54 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Besides those jobs, consider the workers in other industries with pension funds that owned bonds in GM that were hurt badly when the government declared that GM would not honor the lawful bankruptcy and reorganizing method of asset allocation. The guy across the street from me had to delay retirement because his pension dropped significantly.

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Greg Williams

10:00 am on Friday, June 1, 2012

How many jobs would have been lost if the companies failed and closed all the factories?

Tammy Osier

3:56 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

I don't have time now (got to go to work) but will later on bring this up when I get back. The difference between one and the other is that private entities are not playing with taxpayer money - the government is. When the government loses, they lose our money. I think if people really look over the history in businesses that created millions of jobs, they'll see that that's how business works - ebbs and flows; gains and losses. To focus on only losses is to not show the whole picture and is ingenuous. How many back in the day worked for GM only to be laid off? Business has always operated that way. Later.

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lee kellogg

4:11 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Does anybody know what Mitt's job was? Like what did he do day to day? Did he tell other people what to do? Did his Dad get him the job? Did he decide which companies were sold, which abandoned, which grew and how? He seems very afraid of anything that isn't a generality.

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John Cook

2:25 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

The information is publicly available, if you take time to look and read. Read the Funding And Early History section of the Wikipedia article on Bain Capital. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital

Romney and two partners started the company in 1984. They had two other employees and several investors. Within ten years, the company had over 100 employees, and today employees more than 400, with offices in several major cities.

Romney gave away his entire substantial inheritance to charities. His wealth is attributable to his own hard and wise work.

Bain Capital slowly and carefully selected companies that they researched and believed could be profitable. They bought companies that were already in trouble, so they were successful only half of the time. The successes were very profitable and outweighed the losses, saving many existing jobs and creating many new jobs.

When a company failed, they sold the assets in order to recoup as much of the investors' money as possible. For this they are unfairly called vultures and vampires. Those who lost jobs hate them; those who got jobs because of their successes love them.

North Georgia Weather

6:28 am on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Watch out!!! Someone might think that's a bad word and delete your post! :-))

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Tammy Osier

1:53 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Well, ingenuous and DISingenuous are two totally different things lol.

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Tammy Osier

2:13 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

LK asks, "Does anyone know what Mitt Romney's job was?" This is too easy, especially if you're going to compare to the current president. The Bain story is not about whether Romney would run the government like a business, but rather that Romney, unlike Obama, has the experience in the private sector to understand how government can help, or hinder the economy. What do you think a Governor does? Compare that to a Senator. A Governor has excellent experience in actually governing. Harvard graduates can make good grades, but how does that give them experience? It doesn't. Being a Governor is just that, experience. Now the question is whether Romney has the wisdom and humility to learn from mistakes and apply what he's learned (before he takes the oval office). I'd rather have someone like that as leader than someone who is controlled by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Those two (who refused to listen to Bush concerning the housing crisis he tried to warn them about) were the downfall of the Obama presidency, in my opinion.

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John Cook

3:17 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Sen. Thompson,
Thanks for feeling compelled to declare that the voters should make up their own mind regarding Bain Capital. Because of this article, I did some online research and found information that I did not know previously.

Bain Capital has rescued just as many companies from financial collapse as you can point to that have failed under their management. Critics have never pointed to that fact. Since the companies already had a depressed stock price which made the buyout possible, I would say Bain has an excellent management and job-saving record.

That may be why employee unions invest their pension funds with Bain. The union workers need a secure investment with a good record of return. And I'm sure that the unions would not invest with a company that makes a habit of vampiring and vulturing union jobs, would they?

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Tammy Osier

11:18 pm on Thursday, May 31, 2012

I agree. Problem is that most people don't do their own research, thus making it easy for mass media to be disingenuous ( means lacking in candor) as in some of the latest negative tv ads that don't give you the entire picture. It's unfortunate that people take information at face value and don't check things out to find out what the whole truth is. Maybe this article will cause a few people to do just that.

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lee kellogg

2:44 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

I don't know either is a perfectly honest response. I'm not a paid heckler. Mitt wouldn't want me anyway, too interested in specifics.

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