Lilburn 'Most Diverse' Neighborhood in Region

Based on Census data, Neighborhood Nexus says Lilburn beats every city in the 20-county greater Atlanta area for its diversity.

According to an October report, Neighborhood Nexus is showing that Lilburn is the "most diverse neighborhood" in the 20-county region in and around Atlanta.

Specifically, the report considers the Lilburn area as northeast of the intersection Jimmy Carter Boulevard and Lawrenceville Highway. The racial/ethnic composition in that neighborhood, according to Neighborhood Nexus (based on Census data) is:

- 30.3% Hispanic

- 23.8% White

- 22.9% Black

- 20.5% Asian

- 2.5% "Other"

"This is an anomaly as over half of all neighborhoods in the region are largely homogeneous," according to Neighborhood Nexus, which provides tools and data to communities to help them be more engaged.

In the attached photo, the most diverse areas are seen in blue, and Gwinnett County comes out ahead of its neighbors.

In addition, the data indicates that the reason for the overall diversity is more about the presence of Asians and Hispanics than blacks and whites. In fact, the data suggests that blacks and whites are largely segregated.

For more information go to:  http://www.neighborhoodnexus.org/content/diversity-region

Rethinknow October 23, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Somebody tell the City Manager, (who does the hiring by the way) about how diverse Lilburn is. And then pass it along to the Mayor and Council... If you are unclear as to these comments I suggest you look at the make up of city employees, council appointed boards and committees. It's the same as it has been forever, Good Old "white" boys and some Good Old "white" Gals. City manager/Mayor/Council think diversity means not eating grits on occasion.
Susan October 23, 2012 at 12:45 PM
The intersection of JCB and 29 is not in the city limits of Lilburn, so city officials have nothing to do with this area.
Bonnie October 23, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Yes, and this is the same town that was persecuted by the DOJ for discriminating against Muslims in the building of their Mosque. I guess we can see now that Lilburn isn't as biased as the government thinks we are!
Rethinknow October 23, 2012 at 01:10 PM
Well darn, let me take back what I said. The City manager, Mayor, Council and various city leaders that sit or have sat on boards and commissions are so darned sensitive to diversity. I’m even going to speculate their goal all along has been to be so darned INCLUSIVE. I just must be blind to their openness. Susan it’s tough being an apologist in 2012. If anyone really wants examples of what the first post was getting at, just LOOK at what the first post suggests. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilburn,_Georgia As of 2010 Lilburn had a population of 11,596. The median age was 36.3. The racial and ethnic composition of the population was 52.7% white (39.3% non-Hispanic white), 16.4% black or African American, 0.5% Native American, 4.8% Asian Indian, 10.4% other Asian, 12.3% from some other race (0.3% non-Hispanic from some other race) and 2.8% from two or more races. 27.4% of the population was Hispanic or Latino.[4]
Rethinknow October 23, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Darn it. I must be living somewhere else. Again I am sorry. I thought the DOJ issue which forced the consent order http://tinyurl.com/9vfrs25 had a lot to do with much, much, much more than the Council being concerned for the quality of zoning. Bonnie ditto on my statement to Susan it’s tough being an apologist in 2012.
Lilburn Community Partnership October 23, 2012 at 05:48 PM
@Rethinkmow: I realize that you do not have firsthand experience with the challenges the City faces in trying to hire diverse personnel. Based on my experience, the city manager has been charged with hiring the most qualified (without discrimination) within a budget adopted by the City Council. There are many constraints the city faces when trying to attract minority candidates. The pay offered by the city for non-police positions is lower than other municipalities and the county. Also, because of the City's small staff, there is little opportunity to advance and turnover is low, resulting in relatively few yearly hires. Another contraint is the small pool of minority candidates due to low high school and college graduation rates. Furthermore, there is a plethora of highly qualified baby boomers who are retiring from county/city jobs and then re-entering the workforce willing to work for much less than they earned before retiring. It is noteworthy that despite these challenges of the last four people hired, two were minorities. In the police department 10% are minority. We are past the days of quotas and Lilburn is hiring the best person for the job in contrast to what you suggest. As a city resident, I am thankful that there are a number of highly skilled people willing to work for the City at a reduced salary. This condition won't last forever, but in this economy it has enabled our taxes to remain low and services to be more than adequate.
Lilburn Community Partnership October 23, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Bonnie, City staff was not cited for racial discrimination in regard to hiring, and I am sure that they were looking at everything when they investigated the religious complaint.
Rethinknow October 23, 2012 at 07:49 PM
First, how do you know I don’t have firsthand experience with the challenges a hiring entity faces? I'm confident my work experience is far more varied than yours or the city managers. Problem is you and some of the other team look at people that don’t play the way you want as slugs that sit around watching Springer all day. You dismiss, minimize and eventually vilify opposition. You have become elitists. You are convinced you hold the answer. And you choose to eliminate any who don't agree. Much of your words tell that story. Assuming I don't know. Who do you think you are? Don't talk down to me or anyone who resides in this city. A former educator as a bully is bad form. Besides we all ready have some, on council and staff. Second, your explanation of few minority candidates is weak. BUT if the selections are predominately from Hall county/Northern Gwinnett and friends/former colleagues of the city manager and or his wife, maybe they don’t know a lot of minorities. And in no way am I suggesting “quotas”, just a fair opportunity. Third, Baby Boomers? Come on, the recent hires (18 months)? Are they 50 to 65? Lastly, in terms of discrimination. Oh my, what a good time we could/can have with that. And it’s not just race and or religion it’s opinion as well.
Bruno Bischoff October 23, 2012 at 08:43 PM
Maybe because of the good old "white" boys thats why it's so diverse, did you ever think about that............... :)
Rethinknow October 23, 2012 at 09:25 PM
Bruno, now that's SNL material.
Susan October 24, 2012 at 01:31 AM
The marker on the Neighborhood Nexus map IS NOT in the city of Lilburn. It only has a Lilburn ZIP Code. The city government has no jurisdiction there.
Amy October 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Doesn't it seem like putting the boundary at L'ville and Jimmy Carter is a pretty broad definition of "Lilburn"?
Lilburn Community Partnership October 24, 2012 at 08:21 PM
Rethinknow: In my opinion your suggestion that the city manager's hiring practices are biased towards certain groups is unfounded, unsupported and unfair to those who work tirelessly (paid and unpaid) toward making Lilburn attractive to a variety of groups. Focus group input resulted in the creation of the Lilburn Logo which manifests the community’s desire to recognize diversity: the different colors of the nested Ls represent Lilburn’s diversity and the tagline: Small town. Big difference further defines Lilburn’s desire to make newcomers feel welcome. Lilburn’s 2030 Plan makes mention of its diversity as an asset that should be leveraged to attract redevelopment. To this end, city staff, elected leaders and citizens have helped and supported tools/entities to help strengthen our neighborhoods and business community. These entities include: Lilburn Woman's Club (est. 1976), Lilburn Bus. Assoc. 199?, Lilburn DDA (est. 2005), ability to establish Tax Allocation Districts (voter approved 2007), Lilburn Community Partnership (created 2009), Lilburn CID (created March 3, 2010), Safety Smart Lilburn (est. 2010), Moody's AA3 bond rating (Oct. 22, 2010). There are of course a number of other groups that do their part as well trying to make our community attractive to live, work, and play. As I see it, here in 2012 we are all part of a community wide movement to reach out and welcome newcomers and live by the standard to treat others as we would like to be treated.
Rethinknow October 26, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Diana Count the people Bill Johnsa has hired. Tell us whether they live in Lilburn, or even in the Lilburn zip code. Then tell us if they had some prior connection with Johnsa or his wife. Indicate what geographic area they reside, where they were connected to said city manager and or his wife. Give us the numbers. What company did Lilburn use to design the Logo and where are they located? Writing of bragging points is the easy part. You are ignoring the issue. You yourself have been the target of intense opposition from within and without, motivated by bigotry and very little else. Lets do this, tell us: How many racial or ethnic minorities serve on city council (or ever have)? How many racial or ethnic minorities serve on city boards or commissions (or ever have)? How many employees of color (racial and ethnic minorities) did the city have when Bill Johnsa became the current city mgr, (2008)? How many employees of color (racial and ethnic minorities) does the city have now? You served from Jan 08 to Jan 12, How did the racial and ethnic representation on city council, boards, and commissions and in city staff change during your tenure? Oh, by the way don’t count women as a minority, they are a protected group.
Lilburn Community Partnership October 26, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Rethinknow: You have a very narrow focus and space in this forum does not allow me to answer all your questions/allegations. I suggest that if you don't want to contact me outside of this blog, that you contact the City for this information. Bragging points?? That is support for those who think that Lilburn is backward and not keeping up with tools that can help renew and refurbish our City. They are also indicators that Lilburn's management practices are sound and planning for future stability. My question to you is how is the racial and ethnic make-up for boards and civic organizations in the Lilburn zip code and Gwinnett County different from the boards and commissions within the City? Every community in Gwinnett faces a challenge of becoming more representative in its leadership. There are efforts trying to meet that challenge, such as Leadership Gwinnett, Senior Leadership, Neighborhood Leadership Institute here in Gwinnett. The public schools have a leadership program In the City, we had Lilburn 101 and the Teen Leadership program, but I think those programs are on hiatus until the economy improves. It will take time for those programs to grow leaders who are willing to subject themselves to intense public scrutiny and hours away from family time, but I believe it will eventually happen.
Rethinknow October 26, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Diana Just start with one. My attempt at narrow focus is because once “one” allows political types, policy wonks, lawyers and the like wiggle room, in return we get responses that often have little to do with answering the original question. As you have just done. We receive no answer to any of the questions. Just more of how wonderful things are or will be. Sounds like the current political campaign doesn't it? Just start with one. Take your time. Your willingness to address other points seems robust and adequate. These Patch comments allow 1,500 characters. The answers to the questions posed could be complied with in a 1,500 character comment or two. Question # 1 Count the people Bill Johnsa has hired. Tell us whether they live in Lilburn, or even in the Lilburn zip code. Then tell us if they had some prior connection with Johnsa or his wife. Indicate what geographic area they reside, where they were connected to said city manager and or his wife. Give us the numbers. As for contacting the City, been there done that. In fact as You ALL are aware there is a very legitimate request in the hands of both elected and hired city officials that has never been answered.
Lilburn Community Partnership October 26, 2012 at 07:14 PM
Rethinknow, According to the Human Resources Manager, 28% of the staff lives in 30047 zip code and the City Manager is the only employee who lives in Hall County. The city would not be acting in the citizens' best interest if it limited its hiring pool to 30047. The Human Resources Manager had some comparison figures from other cities of staff who live within their City Zip Codes: Buford, majority; Duluth, 30%; Norcross 6-8 people; Snellville, 13.3 %; and Swuanee, 25%. As far as your concern that the City Manager hires candidates based on whether or not he or his wife has a relationship with the candidate, we are getting into the area of trust. Having worked with the City Manager for 3 ½ years, I trust his judgment and believe that he hires the best qualified and directs his department heads to do the same. If someone hired is a retiree from Gwinnett County, there is a high likelihood that the City Manager or his wife would know that person since both of them have worked for the County. It is also likely that the County retiree will be highly qualified because he/she has years of staff training, and government protocol for the County and the City is very similar. Therefore, your continued allegations that the City Manager's hiring practices are biased seem baseless to me. If your attempt to get info was in the form of an open records request, there are state guidelines that govern the release of information. I think we have worn out this topic.
Rethinknow October 27, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Spoken like a seasoned bureaucrat. And, I was asking how many did Bill Johnsa hire. And more to the point how many management level personnel? And of course the supplier of the information you quote has an interesting hiring story with regards on how that job came about. That would be worth at least 1,500 characters. I know what open records requests are and what I’m referring to is not open records. You know, if you just addressed these questions/issues with a healthy dose of “common sense” instead of carefully structured rhetoric the facts would prevail. Let me say it and of course you all know it. The city manager "appears" to be practicing cronyism. Which, no matter how many of you say you trust him, does not make his decisions necessarily the best. To say ”that he hires the best qualified”. Who knows. I’ll bet no one form Lilburn got a phone call. It’s hard being an apologist. As for “I think we have worn out this topic”. You didn't answer all of the questions. But I get it. As I said above, “we get responses that often have little to do with answering the original question”. I also said “Sounds like the current political campaign doesn't it?” And in that regard ALL need to think... have you have become what you despise? Advice, next time you throw down the gauntlet, be prepared to stay the course. There are more questions.


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