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Noonday Poll: Thumbs Up or Down for Lilburn Sports Complex?

Are you in favor of a multi-use sports complex in Lilburn? Or does your support depend on whether the city funds it or private investors fund it?

The city this week said the dream isn't dead of a multi-use sports complex on about 40 acres off Indian Trail-Lilburn Road.

Big League Dreams, a sports complex operator, is talking to private investors about building the complex.

In the meantime, though, Lilburn asked Big League Dreams, to extend for six months a fee license agreement it has with the so that Lilburn isn't totally out of the picture if the complex operator hasn't found a private partner in that time.

The idea is controversial among Lilburnites. While many in the city, including City Manager Bill Johnsa, see the complex as a juggernaut for Lilburn's redevelopment, others worry about the cost and whether it will succeed financially.

On that note, Johnsa said all studies have shown that it would be successful.

What do you think?

Thor Johnson February 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Come on folks, read the questions. You gotta say ONLY IF it is built with PRIVATE investors. Yes, it's just a poll but don't JUST say it's a good idea. Make CERTAIN you stipulate PRIVATE INVESTORS.
David Adams February 16, 2012 at 01:30 AM
Nothing ventured nothing gained...I hear sad stories every day about retailers struggeling in Lilburn. With 60,000 plus cars per day passing through the intersection of 29 and Beaver Ruin rd. The issue is not what brings people to Lilburn, rather what keeps them there to recreate, dine and live. The BLD project does not rely on the people who live in Lilburn...instead it brings people from outside the market who will need the same things that will keep people IN Lilburn, eating, enjoying recreation, cultural venues, and on top of that hotels. Run, do not walk to economic drivers such as BLD. Oh and NOT on the TAX PAYERS dime...Have a Big League day!
Thor Johnson February 16, 2012 at 01:24 PM
To make it very clear. I am for the “sports park” and believe it to be a great potential for the local economy. However,,, I can’t imagine anyone saying yes without the Stipulation of NO TAXPAYER MONEY. The current count says that 34 people voted just yes without stating NO TAXPAYER money. Hmm… since this is a very physically conservative community where did those 34 votes come from? Do you think from “outside” Lilburn…maybe even from another county?
Thor Johnson February 16, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Just looked at the “new” votes… WOW, great! Thank goodness for common sense. If you have not voiced your vote… do it. But be sure to read the questions.
Theresa Waldrop February 16, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Good point, Thor. We don't have any way of knowing.
David Adams February 16, 2012 at 04:58 PM
Hi Thor, we've met and I enjoyed hearing your comments re/ the 29 corridor, and it is good to hear your comments now re/ the BLD project. It is exactly what is needed for the citizens of Lilburn or any community for that matter to get the facts on projects that affect the areas where they live. To often folks just don't have the time or take the time to get all of the information and thus rely on the "rumor mill". Congrats folks...participate, be involved. If you want the scoop on redevelopment in Lilburn, check out the Lilburn CID web site, Gerald McDowell Director, a great asset to Lilburn's growth.
Thor Johnson February 16, 2012 at 07:29 PM
David you are correct, the citizens need to be aware of ALL of the details. An Extremely Important "player" in this process is the Patch. Without the Patch "our" words would be far less likely to be heard...perhaps not at all. The "voting" looks robust and that's a good thing. Everyone, if you have not voted do it. Be sure to read the questions.
Mike Smith February 16, 2012 at 08:13 PM
David & Thor make a great point. It IS difficult for busy folks to know what's going on with this development, but it is critical that the people who fund it know how their money is spent. What to do? 1) Publicize the process - Thanks, Patch. But, that still requires "we the people" take the time to become experts. OR, 2) Let private investors research the project for the possible investment of their own money. The best way to promote rigorous research and ultimate success is to allow the private experts to make the decision with their own money. If BLD can't convince professional developers to risk their money on this, then the city should walk away! These pros are already experts and they will make it a success if anyone can. Shoveling tax money at project the pros don't want is a bad idea. Allowing the pros access to invest in Lilburn is a great idea.
Thor Johnson February 16, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Very well put Mike. By chance do you have a distant relative by the name of Adam Smith?:):):)
David Adams February 16, 2012 at 10:28 PM
I guess we chould say that in the beginning of the process the City leaders were looking for ways to bring revinew and increase the tax base of the City. The City has a large amount of property compaired to other cities in Gwinnett, that is not on the tax roles, and the prospect of placing a multimillion dollar tourist attraction on the Cities tax base seemed like found money I'm sure. It's just that Lilburn is a small economy and the concern by the citizens is resonable for sure. The BLD model works for cities because of the attraction to resturant, and hospitality developers, and those projects create an emormous tax stream to the cities where the parks are located. That, was the motivation of the City...forward thinking really. The model of BLD doesn't cash flow well however for a private developer. Developers do not receive taxes...they pay taxes. A large amount of taxes, in fact the largest portion of a Cities revenue stream comes from commercial properties and developments. The City Council, to the Mayor, past and present, and everyone else in the City office has worked to create the right "fit" for the BLD project. Let them know their work is not for nothing, and to continue working to find the right economic drivers for Lilburn. For generations yet to come.
Ben November 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Why do you think any Little League Baseball Team would Pick Lilburn, GA. to have there Games Played, There is nothing here, Except Tire Dealers, Buy here pay here car lots, Auto repair shops, Car parts places, is there main atraction. Lilburn has no Name brand Nice Restaurants, No Holiday Inn's, Lilburn does not have a Dairy Queen, Lilburn, Needs better Resturants, Lodging & a lot more better business name store, Look at the Ave's at Webb Gin & 124 Hwy, This is what Lilburn should look like. I Hope Lilburn gets better Thanks Ben

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